Форум Запоріжжя

Я тут подумал, тема покращення в России есть, а чем хуже славный Пиндостан?
Для затравки держите.
Спустя всего несколько дней после первого за долгое время военного парада в Вашингтоне на День независимости США, на американскую столицу обрушился мощный ливень.

Дождь подтопил ряд районов и окрестностей города, а также некоторые помещения в Белом доме.

Компания Amtrak, которая занимается пассажирскими железнодорожными перевозками, сообщила в своем Twitter об остановке всех поездов, направляющихся южнее Вашингтона, из-за серьезной непогоды
https://www.segodnya.ua/world/usa/vodop ... 97634.html
И куда трамп смотрит?

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Господи и Сатана дайте этим долболобам то что они хотят и пусть не жалуются!

как там любители соросовской Америки говорили : США это вам не то (близко к тексту ) не Беларусь, или Россия, и даже не Украина, у них - все честно Ага.




В общем, ждем подтверждения или опровержения озвученной президентом США информации.

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«-„Ад пуст. Все бесы здесь.“ (с) Уильям Шекспир.

Я никого не призываю нарушать нормы Конституции— за вас это сделает наша власть!

ну и если уже актеры в авторитете, как политологи


если кто не знает, прекрасный актер Джон Войт, по совместительству отец Анжелины Джоли.

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«-„Ад пуст. Все бесы здесь.“ (с) Уильям Шекспир.

Я никого не призываю нарушать нормы Конституции— за вас это сделает наша власть!

Фактов хотите? Их есть у меня. А вообще, прекращайте истерику и сушите весла. Ваши ковбои и чернокожие братья, а также клептоманы, начинавшие свою карьеру с воровства по магазинам, могут сворачивать предвыборные плакаты и пустую риторику. По сути состоялись не выборы а всенародный импичмент полоумному "щенку Путина".

Выборы 2020 не были "украдены": факты и доказательства.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-2020-ele ... 23754.html

Коротко:



Статья целиком. Достаточно воспользоваться Google-переводчиком, чтобы понять ее содержание. И не стоит таскать сюда информацию с российских помоек:

The United States has been conducting presidential elections for 232 years. No modern candidate has ever refused to accept the results and recognize the winner’s legitimacy.

In this sense, 2020 could be different from any contest since the Civil War — if President Trump continues to claim that President-elect Joe Biden “stole” the election from him.

But every indication is that the 2020 election, conducted in the midst of a pandemic, with by far the most votes ever cast, was run honestly and the results tabulated accurately — a tribute to the professionalism and integrity of officials across the country.

Before Election Day, the Trump administration invited a delegation of 28 international experts from the Organization of American States, which has reported on elections around the world, to observe the vote. Its preliminary report found zero evidence of significant fraud.

The New York Times recently spoke to top election officials in 49 of 50 states. Not one, Democrat or Republican, reported “that fraud or other irregularities played a role in the outcome of the presidential race.”

And the head of Trump’s own Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency has spent the last week explaining on Twitter and on the agency’s “Rumor Control” website why none of the stories of so-called fraud that Americans may be encountering on social media or alternative news sites represent anything out of the ordinary.

Yet these ominous-but-ultimately-overblown stories continue to circulate online — stories of pollsters falsifying their surveys to hurt Trump, of dead people voting, of observers being blocked from watching the count, of mysterious batches of Biden votes suddenly materializing in Democratic cities, of computer glitches changing the results, and so on.

As a result, millions of people continue to worry that maybe something happened in 2020 that’s never happened before. They wonder if maybe the election was stolen.

It wasn’t.

What follow are the facts, and just the facts, on each of the major “fraud” rumors flooding your inbox and your newsfeed.

Even if all of these rumors were true, which they aren’t, they wouldn’t add up to enough votes to overturn the outcome: Biden is on track to beat Trump by 5 million votes nationwide and by tens (or even hundreds) of thousands of votes in key states.

And while some allegations could end up exposing real fraud — because real fraud happens in every election — history shows that such incidents will be few, far between and ultimately inconsequential.

In 2014, Loyola Law School professor and voting expert Justin Levitt investigated every general, primary, special and municipal election held since the year 2000. Of more than 1 billion ballots cast, he found just 31 credible instances of potential voter impersonation, which is one of a few ways that cheating can actually occur.

In every election, some people cast ballots that end up not counting because they run afoul of state election law for one reason or another. It’s critical to the integrity of the election — and public trust in America’s democratic process — that officials identify and disqualify such votes. Every state has numerous safeguards in place to ensure that’s exactly what happens.

But the mere existence of irregularities doesn’t invalidate an election. If it did, no election would be valid. Scale is important here, too. Illegal votes can affect the outcome only if enough of them benefit the winner to potentially account for his or her entire margin of victory.

“One would have to show, at minimum, more illegal votes than the margin between the candidates,” Richard Hasen, a law and political science professor at the University of California, Irvine, and a nationally recognized election law expert, recently explained. “That would be quite an extreme scale of fraud. Let’s see what the evidence is.”

The evidence of illegal votes in the 2020 election has been exceedingly thin.

One of the most detailed complaints about the possibility that ineligible voters cast ballots, or that votes were manufactured, came in a lawsuit filed in Michigan on Nov. 9. A pro-Trump lawsuit against the city of Detroit, filed by the Great Lakes Justice Center, claimed that election workers were told not to check signatures on mail ballots, that extra mail ballots were brought in and all counted for Biden, that election workers backdated mail ballots so they could be counted, and that they “used false information to process ballots.”

The lawsuit also claimed election observers were blocked from watching vote counting at key moments, that votes from ineligible voters were counted and that a handful of city workers “coached” voters to cast ballots for Biden.

But the city filed a detailed response, knocking down the allegations and saying they reflected “an extraordinary failure to understand how elections function.”

Election workers at the TCF Center, a Detroit convention center where much of the county’s vote tabulation took place, were instructed not to check mail-ballot signatures during the count, the city said, because signature matching had already been done before the ballots arrived at the facility.

Complaints made in the Great Lakes lawsuit about mail ballots — known in Michigan as absent voter ballots — being backdated, with the implication that they had arrived after Election Day, were also plainly false, the city said. “No ballots received by the Detroit City Clerk after 8:00 p.m. on November 3, 2020 were even brought to the TCF Center,” the city’s attorneys wrote. “No ballot could have been ‘backdated,’ because no ballot received after 8:00 p.m. on November 3, 2020 was ever at the TCF Center.”

As for the notion that ineligible votes were counted, or that votes were concocted out of thin air and assigned to names of people who didn’t vote, the city said that what Republican observers inside TCF really saw was election workers correcting an error by some election workers at satellite locations, who failed to complete a process that allowed some mail ballots to be counted. It was necessary to enter the date for these ballots to allow them to count, the city said.

“Every single ballot delivered to the TCF Center had already been verified as having been completed by an eligible voter,” the city said.

The charge of extra ballots being brought in was related to the arrival of blank ballots that were sent to TCF for use by election workers. These ballots were given to election workers so they could function as duplicate ballots in case legitimate ballots were damaged and could not be read by voting machines, the filing said.

“Michigan election law does not call for partisan challengers to be present when a ballot is duplicated; instead, when a ballot is duplicated as a result of a ‘false read,’ the duplication is overseen by one Republican and one Democratic inspector coordinating together,” Detroit’s lawyers wrote. “That process was followed, and Plaintiffs do not — and cannot — present any evidence to the contrary.”

The Trump campaign, in a lawsuit of its own filed Tuesday in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan, claimed there were cases in which “ballot duplication was performed only by Democratic election workers, not bipartisan teams.” This claim has already been dismissed in one lawsuit filed last week by the Trump campaign in Michigan’s Court of Claims.

The accusation of “false information” was based on records that list some voters as having been born in the year 1900. The city said some mail ballots that arrived between Sunday night and Tuesday — all before the close of polls on Tuesday night — needed to have the birth date manually entered due to a software “quirk.”

Election workers entering the birth date for those ballots used Jan. 1, 1900, as a “placeholder date” until the ballot entry could be matched to the voter’s entry in the state voter file. “That birthday will appear in several places in the electronic poll book record for a limited period,” the city said.

That leaves the allegation of city workers “coaching” voters to cast ballots for Biden, a claim made by a city worker named Jessy Jacob in the lawsuit.

The city said that if this were true it would be “contrary to the instructions given to workers at the satellite locations,” but also said it was “curious that Ms. Jacob waited until after the election to raise these allegations.”

The city noted that Jacob had been furloughed prior to the election, was brought back to work during election season in September and was furloughed again immediately after the election.

The filing also pointed to evidence on social media that two of the individuals who signed affidavits in the Great Lakes lawsuit were adherents of the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theory.

The Detroit lawyers also pointed out that Trump received almost three times as many votes in Detroit in the 2020 election as he did four years ago: 12,654, up from 4,972 in 2016. (The vote for Biden in Detroit this year was just under 234,000, which was about 1,000 votes less than Hillary Clinton’s total in 2016. But Biden won the state by almost 150,000 votes.)

“Nothing about those numbers supports the theory of fraud being advanced. Nothing about those numbers supports the completely unsubstantiated claims of tens of thousands of improperly processed ballots,” the city said.

It’s a perennial claim in American politics: The only reason my candidate lost is because a bunch of dead people voted for your candidate. And Trump ally Lindsey Graham, the recently reelected Republican senator from South Carolina, is its latest proponent.

“The Trump team has canvassed all early voters and absentee mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, and they have found over 100 people they think were dead [and] 15 people that we verified that have been dead who voted,” Graham said during a Fox News interview. “Six people registered after they died and voted. In Pennsylvania, I guess you’re never out of it.”

Graham isn’t alone in accusing the deceased of meddling in the election; members of Trump's family and supporters like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell have repeated similar charges. Meanwhile, a series of viral tweets and videos shared by Trump fans have also accused various Michigan residents — some with birth dates from the turn of the 20th century — of casting absentee ballots from beyond the grave.

The implication is that somehow Democrats filled out and fraudulently submitted ballots in the names of dead people in order to lift Biden to victory.

But that just doesn’t compute.

In reality, 13 states actually count absentee ballots submitted by living voters who then die before Election Day, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. So some of these so-called illegal votes are, in fact, perfectly legal.

Elsewhere, states prohibit counting the votes of people who are no longer alive. They do this in two ways: by disqualifying the early votes or mail ballots of residents who wind up dying before Election Day and/or by promptly flagging voters who have recently died so officials can cross-reference the voter rolls and discount any ballots cast in their name.

It’s a complicated, fast-moving process, and sometimes the human beings in charge of it make mistakes. One viral video, for instance, purports to show that “118-year-old ‘William Bradley’ voted via absentee ballot in Wayne County, Mich.” But what actually happened, according to Politifact, is that Bradley’s son — also named William Bradley and residing at the same address, but not born in March 1902 and definitely not deceased — voted with his own ballot, which officials then incorrectly attributed to his father.

“No ballot was cast for the now deceased Bradley,” Politifact explained. “This was a clerical error, not voter fraud.”

Another Michigan voter, named Donna Brydges, was also cited in viral pro-Trump videos because her birth date was listed as 1901 in the state’s qualified voter database. Turns out that Brydges is 75 and voted legally; her DOB was merely a placeholder.

“It is important to note that some state registration systems indicate a missing date of birth by adopting filler dates, such as 01/01/1900, 01/01/1850, or 01/01/1800,” a 2017 report about duplicate voting from the Government Accountability Institute noted. “The vast majority of votes cast by individuals appearing to be over 115 years old had these three erroneous birthdates.”

Likewise, CNN recently checked 50 of the more than 14,000 names on a list of allegedly dead-but-registered Michigan voters making the rounds on Twitter and found that only five of them voted in 2020 — and all five are, in fact, alive.

None of the 37 actually dead people in CNN’s sample cast a ballot.

Whatever the exact figures, we’re talking about a small handful of ballots here — nowhere near the number Trump would need to catch up in Michigan, where he trails by about 147,000 votes, or Pennsylvania, where he trails by 45,000. A suit filed by a conservative foundation in Pennsylvania alleged that the state included 21,000 dead people on its voter rolls. But “the court found no deficiency in how Pennsylvania maintains its voter rolls,” according to a spokeswoman for the state attorney general’s office, and “there is currently no proof provided that any deceased person has voted in the 2020 election.”

And even then there’s no reason to think the dead favor Democrats over Republicans. In October, a man in Luzerne County, Pa. — a registered Republican — was charged with felonies after trying to apply for a mail ballot in his dead mother’s name. On Nov. 7, meanwhile, Trump campaign adviser Corey Lewandowski provided what he said was “one concrete example” of dead-voter fraud, pointing to an obituary for Denise Ondick of West Homestead in Allegheny County, Pa., who died on Oct. 22 — one day before election officials received her application for a mail-in ballot, according to online records from the Pennsylvania Department of State, and 11 days before the county received and recorded her vote. The Trump campaign has cited a single, similar incident in Nevada.

In an interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer, Ondick’s daughter said she helped her mother fill out an application for a mail ballot in early October, before the elder Ondick died of cancer, but that she could not explain why the ballot had been sent in after her mother’s death. Ondick’s husband said he couldn’t recall doing anything with the ballot.

Ondick’s daughter also said her mother had planned to vote for Trump.

Lewandowski said Ondick was “one of many” examples of dead-voter fraud the Trump campaign would be asking the courts to review. So far, the campaign has not revealed any additional details or mentioned any other specific cases.

Republicans have focused these complaints on Detroit and Philadelphia.

“We’re seeing this pattern in Democratic city after Democratic city, but the worst of the country right now is Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, were they’re not allowing election observers in, despite clear state law that requires election observers being there, despite an order from a state judge saying election observers have to be within 6 feet of the ballot counting,” Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said on Nov. 5, on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show.

“I am angry and I think the American people are angry because by throwing the observers out, by clouding the vote counting in a shroud of darkness, they are setting the stage to potentially steal the election,” Cruz said.

These allegations were repeated by Sens. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

But the Trump campaign’s own lawyers acknowledged in a hearing that there have been Republican observers in the room at all times since mail ballots began to be opened and counted at the Pennsylvania Convention Center.

“Their counsel admitted at the hearing, after questions from the court, that they had several representatives in the room,” said the Philadelphia City Commissioners in a statement. The commissioners, two Democrats and one Republican who oversee voting in the city, said there were between 15 and 19 Republican observers present all day on Nov. 5.

Hawley also said that “some states [were] going to court to try to stop poll watchers, people just observing the ballot counts.”

“I mean, that is deeply, deeply disturbing,” he said.

That was another false claim. The city of Philadelphia appealed a ruling that partisan observers should be allowed to oversee the work of election officials from as close as 6 feet away. There was never an allegation in the suit that poll watchers were being barred from the room.

The Trump campaign’s lawsuit had alleged that its observers, who were in the room with unobstructed views, wanted to get closer so they could challenge individual mail ballots if there was no signature on the outer envelope, or if the voter had written the wrong date on the envelope.

The city’s appeal argued that state law does not permit those kinds of challenges, a decision the state legislature made in recognition that allowing challenges to individual ballots would slow down the processing of a historic number of mail ballots during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Challenging the eligibility of voters to cast mail ballots had to be done when the ballots were requested, Tammy Bruce, a former Arizona elections official, told Yahoo News.

Observers in the room are entitled to see that mail ballots are being examined for signatures and that they were properly placed inside a privacy envelope, and to monitor for anything else of concern, such as the destruction or discarding of ballots.

Gingrich, also on Fox, claimed poll watchers had been “physically excluded” from overseeing vote counting.

He pointed specifically to Detroit, where there were complaints about election officials covering the windows of a counting room at the TCF Center.

“You have a precinct where you don’t let anyone in. They’re boarded up,” Gingrich claimed. “I would take every precinct that blocked poll watchers and not count their votes.”

But a Detroit city attorney said the windows were blocked because ballots were being counted closely enough to them that members of the public could take photos that might disclose the privacy of voters’ ballots.

There were “hundreds of challengers from both parties … inside the Central Counting Board all afternoon and all evening,” said Detroit attorney Lawrence Garcia.

The city of Detroit noted in a court filing that “more than 200 Republican challengers were present at the TCF center, and at no time were they limited to fewer than one challenger for every Absent Voter Counting Board. While six feet of separation was necessary for health reasons, the Department of Elections provided large computer monitors at every counting board, so that challengers could view all information as it was inputted into the computer.”

“When it became clear that the number of challengers had reached or exceeded the lawful quota and the room had become over-crowded, additional challengers were not admitted until challengers from their respective parties voluntarily departed.”

When Yahoo News asked Gingrich what proof he had of observers being “physically excluded” from vote-counting centers, a Gingrich spokesman essentially admitted there was none. “With regard to the people being kept from watching ballots being counted, we now have a better understanding of the situations in Philadelphia and Detroit,” said Louie Brogdon, editorial director of Gingrich 360, a consulting and media production firm.

“When Speaker Gingrich made his earlier comment, he was speaking on the best information he had at the time,” Brogdon said.

In the days after Election Day, Trump said several times that Democrats were trying to cheat him by “finding” votes for Biden.

“They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!” the president tweeted just before noon on Wednesday, Nov. 4.

His mention of those three states is telling. They are the same ones that Yahoo News was writing about for three months leading up to the election, raising awareness about what one Pennsylvania Republican warned in September was a “man-made disaster … that easily could be avoided.”

The disaster happened. It didn’t have to. And it created space for the president to falsely claim that votes were being “found” when in fact they were simply being counted in a delayed fashion. The delay was caused — seemingly intentionally — by the Republican Party itself.

Here’s what happened. After the outbreak of COVID-19 in the late winter and early spring, most states allowed all voters to cast ballots by mail in the spring and early summer, during primary elections. Over the summer, some states moved back to a focus on in-person voting. But most stuck with expanded access to voting by mail.

For many states this was new. But five states have conducted their elections by mail for years now: Colorado, Utah, Washington, Oregon and Hawaii. Two more, Arizona and California, have done their elections mostly by mail for a few years.

As states moved to voting by mail, most had rules that allowed election clerks to process those ballots as they arrived. As Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, told Yahoo News in August, “We can start processing those right away, meaning: Cut the envelope, open, verify the information on it, put it through the scanner, but not hit ‘tabulate.’ That can’t happen until 7:30 on election night.”

As a result, Ohio had most of its mail ballots counted early on election night. Most states did.

But Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — the same three states mentioned by Trump in his tweet — refused to make a change allowing clerks to process mail ballots like the rest of the country.

Action was needed from the state legislature, and in all three states the Republican Party held majorities in both the state Senate and the state House.

LaRose himself warned of a “really terrible situation” if these legislatures didn’t make a simple change, giving clerks time to process mail ballots before Election Day.

In other words, the GOP knew its lack of action was going to delay the counting of mail ballots by several days, and either did nothing or — as in the case of Michigan — gave clerks one day ahead of Election Day to process mail ballots, rather than the week or two that experts and election officials recommended.

In Pennsylvania, Republicans at first allowed clerks to start processing mail ballots 21 days before Election Day, but then cut that down to three and included a number of “poison pill” ideas in its bill that guaranteed Democrats would oppose it.

There has been no evidence of ballots being added. That has happened before in Philadelphia, but on a very small scale. In May, an election judge there pleaded guilty to adding a total of 113 votes over three elections from 2014 to 2016 to help judicial candidates running for a local court.

The point made by LaRose and other Republican experts is that even isolated examples of cheating, which do happen, do not add up to a conspiracy. To manipulate tens of thousands of votes without detection is not possible given the multiple layers of security and accountability involved in running elections, experts say.

One of those layers is the postelection audit that each state conducts itself to ensure that the result was accurate.

No election goes off without a hitch, and in the internet era, technology can compound some of the usual mistakes. But there’s a big difference between bad actors “hacking” an election on Democrats’ behalf and the kind of minor, easily detectable and correctible data-entry accidents and software glitches that complicate any computer-based enterprise.

The first is what Trump & Co. darkly speculate, without evidence, to have taken place in close-run states such as Michigan and Georgia.

The second is what actually happened.

Consider the example of Antrim County, Mich., a Republican stronghold where unofficial results initially showed Biden beating Trump by roughly 3,000 votes — a sharp reversal from Trump's performance there in 2016. Trump supporters flagged the discrepancy. Tweets about it went viral. Soon conservatives such as Ted Cruz were calling for investigations and alleging that maybe the same election-management software used in Antrim County (Dominion Voting Systems) had screwed up the statewide count.

Experts eventually figured out what went wrong: An election worker had “configured ballot scanners and reporting systems with slightly different versions of the ballot, which meant some results did not line up with the right candidate when officials loaded them into the system,” according to the New York Times. By then local officials had already caught and corrected the error — even before another round of review conducted by Republican and Democratic “canvassers” that is designed to catch such mistakes. In the revised count, Trump beat Biden by roughly 2,500 votes.

But these facts haven’t deterred Trump allies from seizing on other, unrelated examples of routine tech-related errors to falsely insinuate some sort of nefarious pattern of cheating. In Oakland County, Mich., election workers mistakenly counted votes from the city of Rochester Hills twice, according to the Michigan Department of State — then spotted and fixed their error. An incumbent Republican county commissioner kept his seat as a result.

“As a Republican, I am disturbed that this is intentionally being mischaracterized to undermine the election process,” Tina Barton, the clerk in Rochester Hills, said in a video she posted online. “This was an isolated mistake that was quickly rectified.”

Meanwhile in Georgia, glitchy software updates affected how poll workers checked in voters in Spalding and Morgan counties, which both halted voting for a few hours. In another Georgia county, Gwinnett, a different glitch delayed the reporting of results.

The issues did not affect the counts. Trump won Spalding County by 21 points and Morgan County by 42; Biden won Gwinnett by 18.

Elsewhere, fringier far-right activists have vaguely theorized that secret CIA computer systems called “Hammer” and “Scorecard” hacked the election on Biden’s behalf, pointing to momentary inconsistencies in CNN’s unofficial, on-air vote tallies for the 2019 Kentucky gubernatorial race as evidence. There is no proof that Hammer and Scorecard exist, and even if they did, experts say they would not be able to intercept the digital transmission of vote results and change them without being detected; officials always compare the transmitted results to paper receipts from the original machines before certifying the outcome.

“The Hammer and Scorecard nonsense [is] just that — nonsense,” tweeted Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency director Chris Krebs. “This is not a real thing, don’t fall for it and think 2x before you share.”

Yet Twitter and Facebook posts from Trump and White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany falsely implied that the isolated issues in Michigan and Georgia were signs of widespread problems with the election. (On Thursday, the president even went so far as to tweet that the Dominion voting system itself had deleted millions of his votes — a claim with no basis in reality.) Following suit, Georgia’s two Republican senators, jockeying for advantage in their Jan. 5 runoff elections, called on Brad Raffensperger, the state’s Republican secretary of state, to resign because he had “failed the people of Georgia.”

“That is not going to happen,” Raffensperger said in a statement. “My job is to follow Georgia law and see to it that all legal votes, and no illegal votes, are counted properly and accurately. … As a Republican, I am concerned about Republicans keeping the U.S. Senate. I recommend that Senators Loeffler and Perdue start focusing on that.”

Last Thursday, Trump told reporters that pollsters had deliberately produced false surveys showing Biden with a big lead in order to suppress Trump votes and help Biden win the election.

He followed up Monday night with a series of tweets repeating the same claim.

“.@FoxNews, @QuinnipiacPoll, ABC/WaPo, NBC/WSJ were so inaccurate with their polls on me, that it really is tampering with an Election,” Trump wrote. “They were so far off in their polling, and in their attempt to suppress - that they should be called out for Election Interference … ABC/WaPo had me down 17 points in Wisconsin, the day before the election, and I WON! In Iowa, the polls had us 4 points down, and I won by 8.2%! Fox News and Quinnipiac were wrong on everything… The worst polling ever, and then they’ll be back in four years to do it again. This is much more then [sic] voter and campaign finance suppression!”

Trump is right about one thing: Pollsters again underestimated the president’s support in key (mostly Midwestern) states such as Iowa and Wisconsin, four years after he first beat his Rust Belt polling numbers to eke out a narrow Electoral College victory over Hillary Clinton. A rough tally of how much better Trump performed on Election Day 2020 than the polls predicted would look something like this:

Estimates of the polling error in swing states, making educated guesses about what the final numbers will look like in states that aren't done counting yet.

WI Trump+8
IA T+7
FL T+6
MI T+5
TX T+5
OH T+5
NH T+4
ME T+3
PA T+3
NC T+2
NV T+2
MN T+2
VA T+2
AZ T+2
NM T+1
GA T+1
CO B+1
11:49 PM · Nov 9, 2020

Trump is wrong, however, that this polling miss was part of some sort of plot to propel Biden to the presidency.

There are two reasons for this. First, these errors are the opposite of deliberate — instead, they’re a source of embarrassment for pollsters nationwide. And second, even if they had been deliberate, they didn’t actually “work.” They didn’t stop Republicans from voting.

Polling is a business, and accuracy is the coin of the realm. As Fox News contributor Liberty Vittert, a data science professor at the Washington University in St. Louis, recently explained, “Pollsters poll on many more issues than political campaigns, and their businesses depend on their reputations for accurate polling.”

To believe that dozens of pollsters independently falsified their results to boost Biden, in other words, you’d also have to believe that somehow they were all independently willing to sabotage their reputations and hurt their businesses on the slim chance that Trump’s passionate base would see Biden’s inflated numbers and decide to stay home.

“The president’s accusation doesn’t make sense,” Vittert wrote. “Think about it: why would any business hire a pollster if it thought the polling was inaccurate?”

Instead, the truth is that pollsters labored mightily to improve their methodologies after missing a lot of non-college-educated white Trump voters in 2016 — and now, in 2020, they’ve missed again, perhaps because many of those voters simply aren’t as willing as highly engaged, COVID-era Democrats to pick up the phone and participate in a practice they’ve already rejected as “fake news.”

This phenomenon is called non-response bias. Pollsters are not proud of their failure to correct for it.

“The reason why the polls are wrong is because the people who were answering these surveys were the wrong people,” pollster David Shor recently explained. “The problem [is that] one group of people [is] really, really excited to share their opinions, while another group isn’t. As long as that bias exists, it’ll percolate down to whatever you do.”

The flip side of this phenomenon, as Shor put it, is that “these low-trust people still vote, even if they’re not answering these phone surveys.” The 2020 results bear this out. Not only did Trump receive more than 72 million votes — the second-most in U.S. history, after Biden’s 78 million — but Senate Republicans in Texas, Michigan, Colorado, North Carolina and Georgia actually beat the president’s share of the vote in their respective states.

Together, these stats suggest that far from being discouraged by Trump’s unpromising poll numbers, Republicans turned out in force on Nov. 3. It’s just that more people voted for Biden.

Угу, а информация с помоек Яху это конечно чистая правда , да?

И да, вся эта черножопая тусовка лутеров- блмщиков, это как раз ресурс демократов, так что вы все напутали

P.S. Так будут доказательства про Трампа, что он щенок Путина, или как?

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Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

Зачем задавать вопрос, положительный ответ на который за несколько лет не смог дать целый спецпрокурор? ))))

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а пока что небольшой экскурс в славное прошлое! ))
Как молоды мы были, как молоды мы были...
Джо Байден в СССР 31 августа 1979, включайте субтитры! ))

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Они существуют, и это фантастика! ))

Да что такое какой то спецпрокуроришко по сравнению с самим Zp Ua? Это другое! Понимать надо! (С)

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На излете века взял и ниспроверг
Злого человека - добрый человек.
Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

По существу вашего запроса могу отметить следующее:

1. Ваши заблуждения зиждятся на том, что вы не владеете ситуацией, сложившейся в американском обществе. Именно чернокожее население, как наименее образованная часть американского общества, выразила поддержку Трампу:

Список штатов США по индексу человеческого развития и поддержанный ними кандидат
(Для справки: Составной список — индекс человеческого развития, созданный для примерной оценки уровня жизни населения по всем штатам США и столичному округу Колумбия по таким критериям, как доход населения, продолжительность жизни и образование. Наименее развитыми остаются юго-восточные штаты с наибольшей долей чернокожего населения.).

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0 ... 0%B8%D1%8F

# Название штата ИЧР Поддержанный кандидат
1. Коннектикут 0.974 Biden
2. Калифорния 0.970 Biden
3. Нью-Йорк 0.969 Biden
4. Пенсильвания 0.966 Biden
5. Вашингтон (штат) 0.965 Biden
6. Массачусетс 0.964 Biden
7. Нью-Гэмпшир 0.962 Biden
8. Нью-Джерси 0.961 Biden
9. Орегон 0.959 Biden
10. Род-Айленд 0.957 Biden
11. Гавайи 0.955 Biden
12. Вашингтон (округ Колумбия) 0.954 Biden
13. Иллинойс 0.953 Biden
14. Мэриленд 0.951 Biden
15. Виргиния 0.948 Biden
16. Вермонт 0.946 Biden
17. Аризона 0.944 Biden
18. Нью-Мексико 0.943 Biden
19. Висконсин 0.942 Biden
20. Мичиган 0.940 Biden
21. Северная Дакота 0.939 Trump
22. Колорадо 0.938 Biden
23. Делавэр 0.936 Biden
24. Флорида 0.934 Trump
25. Аляска 0.930 Trump
26. Миннесота 0.929 Biden
27. Техас 0.927 Trump
28. Юта 0.926 Trump
29. Вайоминг 0.925 Trump
30. Монтана 0.924 Trump
31. Северная Каролина 0.922 Trump
32. Огайо 0.921 Trump
33. Айова 0.917 Trump
34. Мэн 0.916 Biden
35. Небраска 0.915 Trump
36. Южная Дакота 0.914 Trump
37. Индиана 0.912 Trump
38. Джорджия 0.911 Biden?
39. Невада 0.910 Biden
40. Миссури 0.909 Trump
41. Айдахо 0.908 Trump
42. Канзас 0.907 Trump
43. Южная Каролина 0.906 Trump ?
44. Кентукки 0.904 Trump
45. Теннесси 0.903 Trump
46. Арканзас 0.902 Trump
47. Луизиана 0.901 Trump
48. Оклахома 0.900 Trump
49. Алабама 0.889 Trump
50. Миссисипи 0.879 Trump
51. Западная Виргиния 0.865 Trump

2. Yahoo является одним из самых авторитетных новостных ресурсов США и публикует исключительно мнения экспертов, а не проходимцев, в поисках которых вы с народом обиваете геббельсовские пороги. И если вы соблаговолите ознакомиться с предложенной мною информацией, то увидите на какие факты ссылаются эти эксперты. Впрочем, что вам до мнения специально приглашенных для контроля экспертов Организации американских государств и их официального заключения по этому поводу? Не так ли? Вы ведь более склонны доверять шастующей здесь руссо-фашистской агентуре.

3. Ну а по поводу вашей жажды доказательств, хотел бы снова процитировать вас: "А нахрена". А вот когда вы соблаговолите, сменить свой подход, вот тогда и поговорим о ваших хотелках.

4. Ну и напоследок, запомните, друг мой, выборы всегда фальсифицируются исключительно властью, в руках которой находится административный ресерс и никогда оппозицией. Она может организовать революцию, но не фальсификации, поскольку не обладает для этого необходимой властью и возможностями.

Знаете, я уже несколько утомился сажать вас в лужу. Ну хорошо, сделаю это еще раз если вам так этого хочется:

In the opening minutes of the Judiciary Committee hearing, Chairman Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, asked about Trump’s multiple claims of vindication by the investigation.

“And what about total exoneration? Did you actually totally exonerate the president?” Nadler asked.

“No,” Mueller replied.

https://apnews.com/article/71c78db80335 ... f1a6505dff

Да, кстати, на всякий случай, Мюллер это и сть тот самый спецпрокуроришко...
а AP - это Associated Press, если что.

Коллеги, на вопрос "Так будут доказательства про Трампа, что он щенок Путина, или как?" абсолютно устраивает как положительный ответ, так и отрицательный.
Если положительный - это доказательство того, что Путин правит миром.
Если отрицательный - это доказательство того, что демократы облажались.

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Заждался, российский троль, тявкаешь изподтишка, провокатор? Спроси у Жириновского чей он щенок, ты же с ним, по всей видимости, тоже хорошо знаком, не так ли? И шампанское небойсь ему тоже откупоривал? Сушите весла господа!

Трамп конечно наш щенок - этому есть многочисленные доказательства из совершенно достоверных источников. Другое дело что сейчас его давит китайский хохлатый - и чем кончится становится всё загадочней.
Но его команда - сразу вспоминается "...команда молодости нашей". Президент 78 лет, Министр Труда Сандерс - 79 лет, Хиллари - 73 года Пелосси так вообще 80.
И кто то ещё смеет обвинять СССР в геронтократии?

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"Вам многое могут простить. Но сделавший вам гадость никогда не простит вам его спасение."(C)
"Дьявол прячется в деталях."
Британия - "Кот Скрипаля не мучился под огнемётом"

не, нормально так, давать ответы на совершенно другие вопросы, сваливая в кучу все аргументы, по теме и не по теме, лишь из-за того, что они вам нравятся! )))

Не кипятитесь, прошу! Я на вас ни за что не буду злиться!
Ведь вы умный, рассудительный, скромный и добрый человек. Патриот!
Любите подискутировать на интересные и для меня темы.

Прямо моё зеркальное отражение, не иначе.
На зеркало же ж не злятся!

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Да, да, утомились, сами из той лужи не аылазячи Но то такое...

И да, не надо уже свои простыни в четвертый, кажется, раз сюда таскать, уже все на них насмотрелись.

Р. S. Уж если Трамп щенок Путина, чё ж импичмент то не прошел?

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На излете века взял и ниспроверг
Злого человека - добрый человек.
Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

Дык, Путин проплатил

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Они существуют, и это фантастика! ))

Эээ кому? Мюллеру или сенату США?

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На излете века взял и ниспроверг
Злого человека - добрый человек.
Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

Видать, всем, и прокурору, и сенату

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Они существуют, и это фантастика! ))

А. От чего, вы, москали, херово живёте - все гроши трампу, прокурору и сенату ушли

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На излете века взял и ниспроверг
Злого человека - добрый человек.
Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

Ну так росиянцы ни когда не скрывали, что америга проклятая во всем виновата

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Мне жаль Вас, если Вы живете в стране, которую ненавидите...

Кстати, бидона, вроде Китай поздравил - таки он китайский щенок?

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На излете века взял и ниспроверг
Злого человека - добрый человек.
Из гранатомета - шлеп его, козла!
Стало быть, добро то посильнее зла!
(Е. Лукин)

а про истерику говорит - главная истеричка этой ветки - смешно , ну хоть не орёт уже, и на том - спасибо

и про простыни - тоже. Не зря же про таких говорят: судит по себе.


и вправду - ничуть не истерика


щенок Путина (с) - о как, вот так и возвеличивают , возводя в ранг всемирного правителя у которого на побегушках сам Трамп. Ну чисто тебе - владычица морская

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«-„Ад пуст. Все бесы здесь.“ (с) Уильям Шекспир.

Я никого не призываю нарушать нормы Конституции— за вас это сделает наша власть!

видео, на котором уже после закрытия избирательных участков на один из них ввозят целый контейнер с бюллетенями - и ни каких фальсификаций, ага

не, ну брехня же

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«-„Ад пуст. Все бесы здесь.“ (с) Уильям Шекспир.

Я никого не призываю нарушать нормы Конституции— за вас это сделает наша власть!

Не понимаешь - это инвестиции! ))

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Что-то вспомнился анек про необычное кафе.
Вот один из его вариантов, орфография авторская

Идёт нефтяник мимо кафе, только з/п получил, решил зайти. Заходит, спрашивает у официантки: что посоветуете?
Официантка отвечает: у нас особенное кафе. Тут Вы мож ете делать что пожелаете. Все что взбредёт в голову. - всмысле? Прям все? - да. Абсолютно. Потом мы выставим вам счёт. Но есть условие: если не хватит денег-наш палач отрубит вам какую нибудь часть тела. Любую-По вашему желанию.
Решил попробовать. -сделай мне приятно. Официантка без лишних слов встаёт на колени и делает ему приятно.
Мужик в восторге. Берет стул -ломает его. Никто не препятствует, все молчат, ведут себя как обычно. И все. Васю понесло. Выпил все пиво, водку, вино, шнапсы-мапсы, послал еще за бухлом,
.........
заставил трое суток без перерыва танцевать народные танцы... навеселился.
Несите счёт говорит. Принесли счёт. Глянул. Достаёт бумажник, посмотрел, закрыл. -давайте вашего палача. Приходит палач. Мужик расстегивает ширинку, достаёт хозяйство. Палач ему: слушай,вроде ещё молодой,пригодится ещё,давай может руку,чего хер то рубить? -Какой рубить?!соси давай, денег ещё дохрена!

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Где на видео видно, что это именно это? Каждый видит то, что он хочет видеть)

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"Родина – это не та страна, в которой живу я, а та, которая живёт во мне"